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25 November 2019

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster1:21:00

Why Buying Twitter Would Have Been a Mistake

Disney's near-acquisition of Twitter is examined as a flawed 'media company logic' approach to buying technology, contrasted with the much better-fitting BAMTech deal.

  • Disney considered Twitter as a technology/distribution acquisition but it created vertical-horizontal conflict
  • BAMTech, as a pure distribution technology provider, fit Disney's vertical strategy without conflict
  • The Twitter deal falling apart was as much about strategic mismatch as content concerns

“Doesn't make any sense. Well, it's exactly how a media company would think about buying a technology company.”

1:21:00
#Twitter#BAMTech#M&A logic

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take1:44:00

Bull vs. Bear Case for Disney Plus

The hosts debate whether Disney+ can succeed where AOL Time Warner-style content-distribution mergers failed, weighing the direct-to-consumer flywheel against streaming losses.

  • Bull case: Disney avoids past content-distribution merger failures by owning narrow distribution tech, not a horizontal platform
  • Bull case: direct digital relationships prevent 'flywheel leakage' to third-party platforms
  • Bear case: the direct-to-consumer segment lost $740 million in a single quarter
  • Analysts projected combined streaming losses of $11 billion before turning profitable in 2024

“this quarter, the direct to consumer plus international segment that is uh under two years old, uh lost 740 million dollars.”

1:50:00
#Disney Plus#bull case#bear case

Explainer· 5

Explainer15:00

Roone Arledge and the Power of Storytelling in Sports

How ABC Sports chief Roone Arledge pioneered treating sports broadcasts as narrative storytelling rather than mere event coverage, and coined the 'innovate or die' mantra.

  • Roone Arledge realized simply televising sports events was 'flat' without narrative context
  • ABC Sports pioneered building storylines around athletes and events
  • Arledge's 'innovate or die' mantra pushed constant adoption of new broadcast technology

“They were selling storytelling. They were selling entertainment. What were the narratives? Who were these people?”

15:30

“he had kind of a mantra around this, which he called innovate or die.”

18:00
#storytelling#ABC Sports#innovation
Explainer1:07:30

The Board Presentation That Led to Buying Pixar

Iger's first board meeting as CEO featured a brutal analysis showing Disney animation had lost $400M while Pixar thrived, setting up the case to acquire Pixar.

  • Disney animation lost $400 million in aggregate during the period Pixar was under contract with Disney
  • Brand research showed parents now rated Pixar above Disney as the best kids' entertainment brand
  • Iger presented three options to the board: status quo, hire new talent, or buy Pixar

“In the same period of time that Pixar has been operating and had their deal with Disney, Disney animation films have lost $400 million dollars…”

1:08:00
#Pixar acquisition#board strategy#animation
Explainer1:12:30

Pixar Deal: Weighing a Hundred Cons Against a Few Big Pros

Steve Jobs and Ed Catmull whiteboarded the Pixar-Disney deal, finding a hundred cons but a handful of pros compelling enough to outweigh them.

  • Disney gained the ability to save its animation studio via Pixar's people, process, and technology
  • Disney secured perpetual IP rights to all Pixar characters
  • Pixar removed existential distribution/marketing risk as a small independent studio

“Steve, like you guys already like lists like a hundred cons, and then they move to the pros, and there's just like just a few…”

1:13:00
#Pixar#negotiation#decision making
Explainer1:18:30

The 2015 ESPN Earnings Call Wake-Up Call

A 2015 earnings call revealing ESPN subscriber losses hammered Disney stock and forced management to accelerate its streaming distribution plans.

  • ESPN cable subscriber losses signaled the first real crack in the pay-TV bundle model
  • Disney stock dropped 10% the next day
  • This forced Disney to accelerate the technology/distribution part of its strategy

“the stock gets hammered down 10% the next day, and they realize this is a big wake-up call to Bob and the team.”

1:20:00
#ESPN#cord cutting#earnings
Explainer1:28:00

What Disney Actually Got in the Fox Deal

A breakdown of the $71.3 billion Fox acquisition's assets: film library, TV library, Marvel character rights, and international streaming operations like Hotstar.

  • Disney got the movie studio, TV library (including The Simpsons), and National Geographic
  • X-Men and Fantastic Four movie rights returned to the Marvel Cinematic Universe
  • Fox's international assets, including India's Hotstar streaming service, gave Disney global reach

“So they get the movie studio, they get uh studios, uh, which have you know both new slates of films coming out and the library”

1:28:00
#21st Century Fox#acquisition#Star Wars

Story· 7

Story11:30

Weatherman to ABC Gopher: Bob Iger's Humble Beginnings

Bob Iger's path from a failed weatherman gig in Ithaca to a $150-a-week gopher job at ABC, and how his work ethic set him apart.

  • Iger's dream was to be an on-camera news anchor, but he wasn't talented on that side of the camera
  • He moved behind the camera and joined ABC at the bottom as a set gopher for $150/week
  • His reputation for reliability, not exceptional talent, is what got him noticed

“I never viewed myself as exceptional. So whenever I got a job, I was relying on hard work more than anything and a level of…”

Bob Iger (quoted) · 12:30
#Bob Iger#origin story#ABC
Story19:30

Minnow Eats Whale: Capital Cities Acquires ABC

The 1985 acquisition of ABC by the much smaller Capital Cities, and how Bob Iger bridged the culture clash between the two companies.

  • Capital Cities, a scrappy penny-pinching broadcaster, acquired the much larger ABC
  • Initial culture clash between Capital Cities' frugality and ABC/Hollywood's spending
  • Bob Iger helped bridge the gap and earned Tom Murphy's trust
#Capital Cities#ABC#acquisitions
Story28:30

Eisner's Turnaround and the Disney Renaissance

Michael Eisner and Frank Wells turned around a floundering Disney in the 1980s, driven by Jeffrey Katzenberg's animation hits and smart home-video windowing strategy.

  • Disney was floundering for nearly 20 years before Eisner took over in 1984
  • Jeffrey Katzenberg drove a golden era of animation: Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King
  • Eisner and Wells pioneered windowed home video releases (the 'Disney vault')

“The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King. These are all Catherine Bird movies in these golden years of the late 80s…”

29:30
#Michael Eisner#Disney Renaissance#animation
Story32:30

The Michael Ovitz Disaster

Super-agent Michael Ovitz's disastrous 14-month stint as Disney's number two, ending in a massive golden parachute and reputational damage for Eisner.

  • Eisner hired talent agent Michael Ovitz, who had never managed people, as his COO
  • Ovitz clashed badly with Disney's operational culture and lasted only 14 months
  • He left with a $140 million golden parachute, damaging Eisner's reputation

“leaves with a hundred and forty million dollar golden parachute. This is the 1.7 billion dollar Adam Newman payout of its day”

35:30
#Michael Ovitz#management#culture clash
Story46:00

Save Disney Campaign and the Comcast Hostile Bid

Roy Disney and Stanley Gold's 'Save Disney' proxy campaign to oust Eisner coincided with a near-successful $64 billion hostile takeover bid from Comcast.

  • Roy Disney and Stanley Gold resigned from the board and launched the Save Disney campaign to oust Eisner
  • Comcast launched a $64 billion hostile takeover bid for Disney that nearly succeeded
  • The bid collapsed after strong earnings news spiked Disney's stock price
  • 43% of shareholders still voted no confidence in Eisner at the 2004 annual meeting

“an astounding 43% of Disney shareholders vote no confidence in Eisner uh at the shareholder meeting.”

50:00
#Save Disney#Comcast#proxy battle
Story1:01:00

Bob's Anxiety Attack and Katzenberg's Brutal Advice

The grueling personal toll of Bob Iger's campaign to become CEO, including a breakfast where Jeffrey Katzenberg told him his career was over.

  • Jeffrey Katzenberg told Iger his career was essentially done and to start rehabilitating his image
  • Iger suffered what he thought was a heart attack (actually an anxiety attack) during this period
  • Despite this, he stayed focused on building his forward-looking pitch to the board

“It's so bad that Bob has a uh he has an anxiety attack during he takes his son to a Clippers game. He thinks he's…”

1:01:30
#Bob Iger#CEO succession#resilience
Story1:04:00

Bob Calls Steve Jobs: The Video iPod Olive Branch

On the day he learned he'd become CEO, Bob Iger called Steve Jobs to repair the relationship, leading to a landmark video iPod content deal.

  • Bob called Steve Jobs the day he was named incoming Disney CEO to reopen the relationship
  • Steve showed him the unreleased video iPod instead of discussing Pixar directly
  • Iger immediately committed Disney/ABC content to the video iPod launch, unusually fast for a media company

“We're in Steve, you have my word, you are going to get ABC and Disney content for your launch on this device.”

1:06:30
#Steve Jobs#Apple#video iPod

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway2:05:30

Grading Disney Plus: What an A+ or an F Looks Like

The hosts lay out the conditions for Disney+ to become an A+ decision (replacing the full cable bundle plus global TAM expansion) versus an F (Fox becomes an albatross and content can't sustain subscribers).

  • A+ scenario: Disney+/ESPN+/Hulu bundle replaces the ~$100+/month cable, DVD, and movie-ticket spend entirely
  • A+ scenario extended: massive TAM expansion through true international distribution
  • F scenario: Fox underperforms, studios can't produce enough new IP, and Disney+ can't compete with Netflix

“I think the F is that uh Fox becomes an albatross, starts losing a ton of money, uh, the studios don't pan out, can't maintain…”

2:08:00
#grading#Disney Plus#future outlook