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23 April 2019

The Pinterest IPO

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Hot Take· 2

Hot Take1:10:30

The Bull Case: Pinterest as a Unique 'Discovery' Ad Platform

The bull case centers on Pinterest occupying a unique 'discovery' niche between search and social advertising, described in its own S-1 as a productivity tool for planning dreams.

“Pinterest is the productivity tool for planning your dreams.”

David Rosenthal · 1:11:00
#bull case#advertising#S-1
Hot Take1:17:30

The Bear Case: Pinterest as a Niche Lifestyle-Magazine Market

The bear case argues Pinterest's addressable market resembles lifestyle magazines — real but inherently smaller and skewed heavily toward women, limiting the company's ultimate ceiling versus larger platforms.

“the market for the core Pinterest product is the same market as lifestyle magazines.”

Ben Gilbert · 1:18:00
#bear case#market size#competition

Explainer· 4

Explainer26:00

Evan Sharp's Architecture Background Births the Pinterest Grid

Architecture grad student Evan Sharp joined part-time and designed the now-iconic adaptable, vertical-image grid layout that became core to Pinterest and later influenced mobile UI broadly.

“He comes up with the grid layout.”

David Rosenthal · 29:00
#product design#UI innovation#co-founder
Explainer51:30

Investing in HR, Ops, and Culture Before Hypergrowth Hit

Unlike typical hypergrowth startups, Pinterest paused after its Series B to deliberately build finance, HR, and operations infrastructure early, bringing over experienced Facebook alumni.

“Pinterest thought so far ahead on a lot of things that most companies say, ah, we'll think about that later.”

Ben Gilbert · 52:00
#scaling#operations#company building
Explainer58:30

Promoted Pins Launch and the Path to Real Revenue

Pinterest launched Promoted Pins in May 2014, scaled it through 2018, growing revenue from $300M to $755M as the ad platform matured.

#monetization#advertising#revenue growth
Explainer1:05:00

Pricing Below the Last Round: Pinterest vs. Lyft's IPO Pop

Pinterest priced conservatively below its last private valuation and popped 28% on debut, contrasting with Lyft's aggressive pricing and subsequent decline, illustrating a lesson about IPO pricing strategy.

“it looks like the strategy of pricing modestly and and being below the last round and then uh uh letting the pop sort of happen…”

David Rosenthal · 1:05:30
#IPO pricing#public markets#Lyft comparison

Story· 6

Story05:30

Ben Silberman's Midwest Roots and Path Away from Medicine

Ben Silberman grew up in Des Moines in a family of doctors, expected to follow into medicine, but fell in love with the internet at Yale and eventually stepped away from the pre-med track.

“he wants to be known in life for the things that he makes, not the things that he says.”

David Rosenthal · 07:00
#origin story#founder background#Pinterest history
Story11:30

How a Cheesy Movie Line Sent Ben and Divya to Silicon Valley

Watching Pirates of Silicon Valley one night in DC, a cheesy line about California inspired Ben Silberman and his girlfriend Divya to move west and pursue tech careers.

“there might be something going on in California.”

12:30
#origin story#relocation#inspiration
Story18:00

Cold Brew Labs and the Failed Mobile Shopping App Tote

Ben Silberman teamed up with Paul Sciarra to found Cold Brew Labs and build Tote, an iPhone app for browsing catalogs, manually entering product data by hand with no traction.

“The idea is that you get all these paper catalogs, you know, direct mail catalogs uh sent to you in the mail for all sorts…”

David Rosenthal · 20:30
#startup founding#failed product#iPhone apps
Story31:30

A Dos Equis Commercial Inspires the Name Pinterest

Watching a 'most interesting man in the world' commercial over Thanksgiving, Divya coined the name Pinterest, combining pin boards with 'interest.'

“that's it. That's the name for the company. Pinterest.”

David Rosenthal · 32:30
#naming#branding story
Story37:30

The Alt Summit and Finding Pinterest's True Audience

After early growth-hacking attempts failed, Ben found early adopters at a women-focused design and blogging conference called Alt Summit, discovering Pinterest's real audience.

“he meets a woman named Victoria Smith, who's a blogger who lives in in San Francisco.”

David Rosenthal · 38:00
#product-market fit#early users#community
Story57:00

The Skimlinks Affiliate Hijacking Backlash

Pinterest quietly rewrapped bloggers' affiliate links with its own Skimlinks-powered links, causing a user uproar; Pinterest apologized and reversed it, but the episode revealed early monetization potential.

“they without warning, they pulled all of the affiliate links, rewrapped them with Skim Links powered Pinterest affiliate links, and Pinterest took over all those…”

David Rosenthal · 57:30
#monetization#controversy#affiliate revenue

Q&A· 1

Q&A1:21:00

Why Didn't Pinterest Just Do a Direct Listing Like Spotify?

With $600M in cash and a path to profitability, Ben and David debate why Pinterest raised new IPO capital and diluted itself rather than pursuing a direct public offering like Spotify.

“This seems like a clear-cut case for me for doing a DPO.”

David Rosenthal · 1:21:30
#direct listing#IPO structure#capital markets

Tool· 1

Tool38:30

The 'Pin It Forward' Blogger Growth Campaign

Pinterest partnered with blogger Victoria Smith on a chain-style campaign called Pin It Forward, where bloggers created themed boards and tagged the next blogger, spreading Pinterest through blogger networks.

“Victoria will create a pin board with all the things that mean quote unquote mean home to her, things that inspire her of home”

David Rosenthal · 38:30
#growth hacking#blogger marketing#viral loop

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway46:00

The Women Who Repeatedly Rescued and Championed Pinterest

From naming the company to pounding the table for the seed and Series A rounds, women investors and collaborators (Divya, Victoria Smith, Shauna Fisher, Sarah Tavel, Leslie Kilgore) repeatedly drove Pinterest's key breakthroughs.

“let's notice a trend of amazing women doing things like naming the company, like pounding the table to make the investment.”

Ben Gilbert · 46:00
#investors#diversity#company history